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>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. so -- >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because t
>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. so -- >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and...
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>> i learned that chris likes it where he is right now because alex, you and joe and i need to meet after the show. >> she does this about once a week, it's a woodshed moment. hey, alex, thanks a lot, buddy, thanks a lot. >> i have to defrost the refrigerator, so i can't join you. >> i was doing that during a certain interview. willie, it's way too early. >> we'll see you tomorrow, stick around for chuck. >>> there's your bounce, the pew poll propels mitt romney. >>> kentucky derby, all eyes turn to the bluegrass state. how much pressure faces paul ryan. and this morning, former penn state football coach jerry sandusky finds out if he'll spend the rest of his life in prison on 45 counts of child sex abuse, he already put out a taped statement denying it all. we'll have the latest from the courthouse as soon as it happens. it is happening within minutes there in pennsylvania. >>> good morning from washington, it's four weeks until election day, tuesday, october 10. will romney serve in national polling translate into gains where it really matters t battleground states, the mimpb battlegrou
>> i learned that chris likes it where he is right now because alex, you and joe and i need to meet after the show. >> she does this about once a week, it's a woodshed moment. hey, alex, thanks a lot, buddy, thanks a lot. >> i have to defrost the refrigerator, so i can't join you. >> i was doing that during a certain interview. willie, it's way too early. >> we'll see you tomorrow, stick around for chuck. >>> there's your bounce, the pew poll propels mitt...
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hoping that joe isn't the same joe who occasionally suffers from bouts of acute honesty on a variety of topics like gay marriage. >> he got out a little bit over his skis, but out of generosity, spirit. >> joining us now from chicago, national press secretary for the obama campaign, ben "the thunder" labolt. >> new nickname every time. thanks for having me. >> thunder bolt or thunder. there's not that much setting nicknames aside, there's been talk of nunchakus brought on stage, a lot of expectations about justice how agretsive vice president joe biden will be. has president obama spoken to the veep and offered any sage words of advice? >> well, you heard it right there in the interview, i think the vice president's goal will be the same as the president's was last week to lay out the economic choice for the middle class in this election. but what he will do is try to correct the brazen attempt that the romney/ryan ticket to rewrite and hide their position. you saw "the new york times" reported the romney campaign saw on focus groups what voters liked about the debate they didn't hea
hoping that joe isn't the same joe who occasionally suffers from bouts of acute honesty on a variety of topics like gay marriage. >> he got out a little bit over his skis, but out of generosity, spirit. >> joining us now from chicago, national press secretary for the obama campaign, ben "the thunder" labolt. >> new nickname every time. thanks for having me. >> thunder bolt or thunder. there's not that much setting nicknames aside, there's been talk of nunchakus...
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what would you advise joe biden to say and paul ryan to respond, if joe biden raises the issue about hey, we saved detroit, we saved the auto industry, which as you know your successor, governor snider, agreed with president obama on? >> i think a lot of people felt including president bush who started some of that in motion you had to do things to get the auto industry back on a solid footing and there was a clear debate about when the bankruptcy had to occur. there really wasn't in the bailout sort of a ignoring of the fact it was going to be a bankruptcy. i think it was a debate about the timing. the auto industry is a lot smaller today, more competitive but still plenty of challenges, i would be talking about where do we go interest here because we're not out of the woods yet. when you look to the first comment, john, about the overall economy and the lower unemployment rate, finally coming below 8% after 40 some months, think what you have to look at is the fact we have so many people not in the work force and i think american families all have been touched by the depth of this
what would you advise joe biden to say and paul ryan to respond, if joe biden raises the issue about hey, we saved detroit, we saved the auto industry, which as you know your successor, governor snider, agreed with president obama on? >> i think a lot of people felt including president bush who started some of that in motion you had to do things to get the auto industry back on a solid footing and there was a clear debate about when the bankruptcy had to occur. there really wasn't in the...
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but joe biden is joe biden and president obama is president obama. two different types of personalities. two different approaches, two different rhetorical styles. let's see if the base is as happy with president obama on wednesday morning as they were with joe biden yesterday morning. >> yeah. mike, can you tell us a little more about this new obama campaign tv ad? >> well, i think this is a case of going back to the formula that had helped build that lead in the polls prior to that first debate. you know, the so-called likability gap. the idea that mitt romney is out of touch with the average american. going back to this issue of his taxes not only has he not released his tax returns, as many presidential candidates have in the past, of course, but he's effectively paid a 14% rate on his taxes, and that is something that is a lower rate paid on investment income. let's have a listen to a little bit of that ad. >> you've paid 14% in federal taxes. that's the capital gains rate. is that fair to the guy who makes $50,000 and paid a higher rate than yo
but joe biden is joe biden and president obama is president obama. two different types of personalities. two different approaches, two different rhetorical styles. let's see if the base is as happy with president obama on wednesday morning as they were with joe biden yesterday morning. >> yeah. mike, can you tell us a little more about this new obama campaign tv ad? >> well, i think this is a case of going back to the formula that had helped build that lead in the polls prior to...
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joe biden did. let's listen for a second. >> we did not pull them out. >> the calendar works the same every year. >> it does work the same every year. >> the eyebrows come together and the eyes narrow and that is classic anger. >> so in their closing statements, both candidates, you think, were very interesting. >> yeah. >> let's watch joe biden's expressions during his close. he's looking down, he's not looking at the camera. not smiling. >> it looks genuine and he softened it. he's been up here for most of the debate and now he's taken the energy level down here, and then i think this is really interesting. >> like the pledge of allegiance. >> he puts his hand on his heart. that's sort of i feel you. that's a way of saying i feel you, i'm with you. >> paul ryan's close was much different than joe biden's. tell me how. >> this seems a little bit more scripted than he was for the rest of the debate. so what you see is that he's looking right into the camera. you again, though, see the eyebrows raise
joe biden did. let's listen for a second. >> we did not pull them out. >> the calendar works the same every year. >> it does work the same every year. >> the eyebrows come together and the eyes narrow and that is classic anger. >> so in their closing statements, both candidates, you think, were very interesting. >> yeah. >> let's watch joe biden's expressions during his close. he's looking down, he's not looking at the camera. not smiling. >> it...
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joe be joe, everything's going to be just fine. and i think the fact that they're sitting down is good. i've seen biden in person many times on the stump standing up. he gets a little carried away. sitting down tonight might be to his advantage. >> the thing i keep thinking about is what is going through paul ryan's head? when you think about it as a politician or public figure, who your peer group is you're trying to impress, paul ryan, right wing think tanks, conservative movement, ideological elements. is he going to go up on the stage tonight and renounce it all? that is the strategic chose made by the romney campaign. you're going to go up there and everything you've done since the first day you were a junior staffer on the hill to now, we want you to throw it out the window and do it in front of everyone. is he going to take his life's work and rip it up on national television? >> are they going to hold ryan to what he has done in politics? this is going to be such a good night. all right. as everyone concedes that president
joe be joe, everything's going to be just fine. and i think the fact that they're sitting down is good. i've seen biden in person many times on the stump standing up. he gets a little carried away. sitting down tonight might be to his advantage. >> the thing i keep thinking about is what is going through paul ryan's head? when you think about it as a politician or public figure, who your peer group is you're trying to impress, paul ryan, right wing think tanks, conservative movement,...
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and hyperactive joe biden is a high risk proposition. it could turn out well and i happen to think he's pretty good debater. de well, i thought against sarah palin. de well when he ran for president. he's an eloquent guy who in the big debates has always been a very controlled figure. but paul ryan has what mitt romney had, which is the ability to real off number after number. and again i'm struck by the fact that you can get wonky this year. people somehow seem to want that. and ryan certainly has that capacity to just go through here's why our position is right. number abcd. >> and just very quickly, 30 seconds, this notion you said a minute ago that romney has moved to the center, is that something he continues on the campaign trail? >> i bit. >> the obama folks are saying it is a different mitt romney. >> they had a big decision to make 6, 8 months ago which was do we attack him as a right wing idea loll or flip-flopper. they went idealogue now trying to switch to flip-flopper. but i think he'll have to continue that. it's working fo
and hyperactive joe biden is a high risk proposition. it could turn out well and i happen to think he's pretty good debater. de well, i thought against sarah palin. de well when he ran for president. he's an eloquent guy who in the big debates has always been a very controlled figure. but paul ryan has what mitt romney had, which is the ability to real off number after number. and again i'm struck by the fact that you can get wonky this year. people somehow seem to want that. and ryan certainly...
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and bill said that vice president joe biden reminded me of the old saying, if you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle t us. let not your heart be troubled. have a good weekend. see you back hereonday. >> winning the presidency, what does that take? a strong debate. >> i'm paying for this microphone. >> this is all theatre. it's theatre and politics. it's trying to get people to me in to the theatre and take a look, see if they like your play. >> yes, we can. >> you have to lea to see campaigns through the lens of the camera. >> campaigns are made of moments that everyone remembers. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a p bull, lipstick. >> there you go again. >> where's the beef? >> senator, you're no kennedy. >>ommerce, education, and the -- what's the third one there? oops. >> tonight we take you behind the scenes. >> see if they can do this flash. >> we'll show you what they don't like to talk about. >> so lying is okay in politics? >> what's behind winning the presidency? ♪ >> when it to say winning the presidency, i'd like to think that the choices about whose id
and bill said that vice president joe biden reminded me of the old saying, if you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle t us. let not your heart be troubled. have a good weekend. see you back hereonday. >> winning the presidency, what does that take? a strong debate. >> i'm paying for this microphone. >> this is all theatre. it's theatre and politics. it's trying to get people to me in to the theatre and take a look, see if they like your play. >> yes, we can....
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. >> do you expect joe biden to be able to make that point or to do anything else that's going to significantly change the democrats' process. >> i do have high hopes for biden. i watched the debates in the 2007-2008 campaign and biden beat both hillary clinton and barack obama in a number of debates. everybody talks about his gaffes and they forget he is a good debatetor and he has a capacity for empathy for average people. and he can just explain stuff quite well. so i think he will put ryan on the griddle and take the interview with chris wallace and say look, you've got time. you said the math is too complicated. don't give us talk about base lines. tell us how you're going to do this. >> e.j., thanks for being here. i appreciate it. >> good to be with you. >>> up next, the grave international implications of having people in our american congress who hold elaborate conspiracy theories about dinosaur farts. sorry. that's next. seriously. >>> this time every year it's the same good news, bad news, high-low kind of feeling. it's the day we learn there are super smart people in the world winni
. >> do you expect joe biden to be able to make that point or to do anything else that's going to significantly change the democrats' process. >> i do have high hopes for biden. i watched the debates in the 2007-2008 campaign and biden beat both hillary clinton and barack obama in a number of debates. everybody talks about his gaffes and they forget he is a good debatetor and he has a capacity for empathy for average people. and he can just explain stuff quite well. so i think he...
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with me now, steve almendorf and republican strategist, joe watkins. >> joe, let me start with you. have the campaigns entered the new phase like "the wall street journal" suggests? are we in closing argument time? if so, what does it mean for both of these campaigns? >> we are in closing argument time, that's not much time left. both campaigns have to work hard to get their message out to voters, what's important for mitt romney, as well as for president obama is getting the folks that are likely to vote for him to show up at the polls and vote on election day, you've got to make sure that the likely voters are the ones that gets the out that you want to get out. >> one of the commercials at the journal predicted the romney campaign out with a new ad highlighting vice president biden's behavior in that debate. >> don't raise taxes on small businesses because they're our job creators, leaders run to problems to fix problems. >> the romney campaign betting on independent voters not liking biden's laughter there. is the jury still out on this thing, steve. >> i think the jury is done,
with me now, steve almendorf and republican strategist, joe watkins. >> joe, let me start with you. have the campaigns entered the new phase like "the wall street journal" suggests? are we in closing argument time? if so, what does it mean for both of these campaigns? >> we are in closing argument time, that's not much time left. both campaigns have to work hard to get their message out to voters, what's important for mitt romney, as well as for president obama is getting...
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i mean, sarah palin asked if she could call him joe and joe said yes. i don't think that's a big deal. i think what that demonstrated is that in fact paul ryan is probably not joe biden's friend. but going back to something that my friend david frum said is that joe biden kept talking about the middle class, but it was because he was able to connect the dots about what the obama's policies have been and will be to expand the middle class. and that's a lot of what the middle class wants to hear and didn't hear from ryan last night. >> let's ask our friend. is it appropriate for the congressman to call the vice president joe? or mr. vice president? >> i would recommend mr. vice president. i would also recommend the vice president to refer to a member of congress and vice presidential nominee as congressman. his use of the word my friend reminded me of something they say in university common rooms, that when the discussion begins to get ugly, the professors begin to address each other as professor. and so there was something dismissive, condescending and i
i mean, sarah palin asked if she could call him joe and joe said yes. i don't think that's a big deal. i think what that demonstrated is that in fact paul ryan is probably not joe biden's friend. but going back to something that my friend david frum said is that joe biden kept talking about the middle class, but it was because he was able to connect the dots about what the obama's policies have been and will be to expand the middle class. and that's a lot of what the middle class wants to hear...
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for him to deliver next week when he is in new york and of course pressure as well on vice president joe biden who will have his debate against paul ryan in kentucky this week. >> all right. we'll talk about his foreign policy plans a little later on in the program. in the meantime, thank you for that. you can stay tuned as well. world is watching closely who will be the next american president. make no mistake, it is not just you and me watching these speeches. we'll go to south africa where some people are offering a bit of advice for the next president of our union. >> a message for the presidential candidates. if you take an interest in africa and take an interest in green issues in africa and have a look at what's happening with our water supplies and education and things like that. >> if you want to be the president of the united states of america, be sure. it is not an easy job. when you get that position, make it count. diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria.
for him to deliver next week when he is in new york and of course pressure as well on vice president joe biden who will have his debate against paul ryan in kentucky this week. >> all right. we'll talk about his foreign policy plans a little later on in the program. in the meantime, thank you for that. you can stay tuned as well. world is watching closely who will be the next american president. make no mistake, it is not just you and me watching these speeches. we'll go to south africa...
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joe biden has too. of course, congressman paul ryan who chairs the house budget committee also likes to tout his foreign policy chops. >> i have more foreign policy experience coming into this job than president obama did coming into his. >> can you explain how do you have more foreign policy experience than senator obama did. he was on the foreign relations committee. >> norah, i voted to send men and women to war. i've been to iraq and afghanistan. i've met with our troops to get perspectives. i've been to the funerals, i've talked to the widows, talked to the wives, the moms and the dads. that's something. that matters. >> yeah. the sitting vice president shouldn't have much problem landing a blow on a claim like that. though perhaps rather than boxing, it's more accurate to think of thursday night as tag team wrestling with each candidate making the power move that their partner missed. of course, ultimately a vice presidential candidate's relationship to his running mate is more like hulk hogan's b
joe biden has too. of course, congressman paul ryan who chairs the house budget committee also likes to tout his foreign policy chops. >> i have more foreign policy experience coming into this job than president obama did coming into his. >> can you explain how do you have more foreign policy experience than senator obama did. he was on the foreign relations committee. >> norah, i voted to send men and women to war. i've been to iraq and afghanistan. i've met with our troops...
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joe biden was speaking from a lifetime of experience. you could tell that he knows the struggles and the aspirations of the middle class like the back of his hand, where paul ryan looked like somebody reading notes. i think they're running the ads because they know joe biden come dmated the conversation. >> here's something. the "washington post" editorial board is titled show me a policy. they write alas the answer lies at the heart of president obama's re-election bid. the absence of a second-term agenda. immediately after the election. until and unless he does, the only rational is the urgency of stopping the other guys. has the president given his second term agenda, patrick? and if so, what is it? do you see a priority list? >> well, there absolutely is. p president articulated it. but clearly from this stage in charlotte, north carolina, with millions of americans watching at our convention. the president talked about the ways in which by 2016 he'll create 1 million new manufacturing jobs in this country and we will double our manu
joe biden was speaking from a lifetime of experience. you could tell that he knows the struggles and the aspirations of the middle class like the back of his hand, where paul ryan looked like somebody reading notes. i think they're running the ads because they know joe biden come dmated the conversation. >> here's something. the "washington post" editorial board is titled show me a policy. they write alas the answer lies at the heart of president obama's re-election bid. the...
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no foreign policy experience and when i talked to her she said the thing that made the difference in joe biden versus her was foreign policy experience and she agreed that was the essential. she had several strikes against her but she was a good cabinet secretary. who knows where that might take her in 2016. >> and our third is senator nancy katzenbaum. >> she was the first woman elected to the senate in her own right. there was a political science article written 35 years ago about women in congress and the title was over his dead body and still quite a few women in congress -- some of the first women like margaret smith who was in the senate, she followed her husband who took that over, so she was the first two had never followed staff and that once again gave her a lot of attention and was a very highly visible race that was covered, even the london newspaper commented on it after the elections so here we have one woman in the senate, if you are 1-woman you get a lot of attention. two years after she was elected she was one of the temporary shares of the republican convention. people
no foreign policy experience and when i talked to her she said the thing that made the difference in joe biden versus her was foreign policy experience and she agreed that was the essential. she had several strikes against her but she was a good cabinet secretary. who knows where that might take her in 2016. >> and our third is senator nancy katzenbaum. >> she was the first woman elected to the senate in her own right. there was a political science article written 35 years ago about...
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. >> now, the 2008 vice- presidential debate between joe biden and sarah palin. this was the most watched vice presidential debate in history. it is also the second most watched debate ever after the 1980 meeting between ronald reagan and jimmy carter. senator biden and governor palin met at washington university in st. louis. it is one hour 40 minutes. good evening. the commission on presidential debates is a sponsor of this event and the two remaining presidential debates. tonight's discussion will cover a wide range of topics, including domestic and foreign- policy matters. it will be divided roughly into it will be divided roughly into
. >> now, the 2008 vice- presidential debate between joe biden and sarah palin. this was the most watched vice presidential debate in history. it is also the second most watched debate ever after the 1980 meeting between ronald reagan and jimmy carter. senator biden and governor palin met at washington university in st. louis. it is one hour 40 minutes. good evening. the commission on presidential debates is a sponsor of this event and the two remaining presidential debates. tonight's...
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she said really the thing that made a difference in joe biden versus her wasn't foreign-policy experience and she agreed those essential appears to shoot several strikes start, but she's been a very good cabinet secretary. and who knows what that may take her 2016. >> okay. part or i suspect i know who will take the lead him out of nancy kassebaum. >> we put me in the end for several reasons. one, the first woman elected to the senate in her own right. there was an article about what the science article written about 30 or 35 years ago about the women in congress and the title was over his dead body. and there's still quite a few women in congress who got their because their husbands die. some of the first women, she followed her husband who had died when the policy and then took that over. and so, kassebaum was the first one who would never followed the south. and now once again gave her a lot of tension. it is a very highly visible rays, covered even one of the london newspapers commented it the day after the election. q. we have one woman in the senate. if you're one woman you would ge
she said really the thing that made a difference in joe biden versus her wasn't foreign-policy experience and she agreed those essential appears to shoot several strikes start, but she's been a very good cabinet secretary. and who knows what that may take her 2016. >> okay. part or i suspect i know who will take the lead him out of nancy kassebaum. >> we put me in the end for several reasons. one, the first woman elected to the senate in her own right. there was an article about...
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welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, political editor and white house correspondent for "the huffington post," sam stein. and managing editor of "fortune," andy serwer. >> andy, good to see you. how did columbia do this weekend? >> it was another "w." lehigh, i believe. >> lehigh. >> went out to pennsylvania and lost the football game. >> the columbia, what are you guys? >> lions. >> lions, exactly. of course, i knew that. ivy league mascots. hey, mika. >> yeah. >> something weird's happening in this campaign. you know, sometimes you'll have an event, and as the event goes by, you'll just sort of count the days and wait for the buzz to dissipate, because it always does because we get so easily distracted. we're talking this weekend and you're hearing it and i'm hearing it, this terrible debate performance, the impact seems to keep growing and growing. it's like turning now into an urban legend. by the middle of next week, people will say barack obama can't walk dow
welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, political editor and white house correspondent for "the huffington post," sam stein. and managing editor of "fortune," andy serwer. >> andy, good to see you. how did columbia do this weekend? >> it was another "w." lehigh, i believe. >> lehigh. >> went out to pennsylvania and lost the football game. >> the columbia, what are you guys? >>...
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and joe's here. >> i'm here. we have some new polls out. >> yes, we do. >> a big movement, and the polls, let's talk first about what i think is going to be one of the great, great series that we've had in a while. and that's the red sox and the orioles -- i mean the yankees and the orioles. oh, wait, i'm sorry. the red sox right now. >> are you trying to alienate everybody? >> so we've got two big yankee fans here. but the yankees and the orioles. you've got, you know, you've got the empire, the great team, plus -- against the upstarts. this one's going to go a while. >> can't go more than five games. >> well, that's a while. if you're a yankees fan. i get nothing from richard haass, so willie. richard, you suck. >> no. >> willie, i'm excited about this stuff. >> go to the ichiro play. >> this is just a great david versus goliath contest. >> i'd say this is a yankee fan, it's hard not to love the orioles and their story. what they've done this year. these are usually the kinds of teams that go away after the all
and joe's here. >> i'm here. we have some new polls out. >> yes, we do. >> a big movement, and the polls, let's talk first about what i think is going to be one of the great, great series that we've had in a while. and that's the red sox and the orioles -- i mean the yankees and the orioles. oh, wait, i'm sorry. the red sox right now. >> are you trying to alienate everybody? >> so we've got two big yankee fans here. but the yankees and the orioles. you've got, you...
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>> congressman paul ryan and vice-president joe biden will face off in their only debate. abc news much erratic moderates. you can watch and engaged with c-span with our live debate preview at 7:00 p.m. eastern followed by two ways to watch the beta nine on c-span both candid sunscreen the entire debate. on c-span2, the multi camera version of the debate of followed by calls, e-mails, and treats. follow live coverage on c-span, c-span radio, an online at c-span.org. >> his company did the federal reserve a favor by buying the financial firm bear stearns four years ago. bear stearns was near collapse. his bank lost 5-$10 billion as a result of the purchase. his remarks came during a discussion today with the president of the council on foreign relations. >> i want to welcome all the to the council on foreign relations. today speaker ceo, part of the council on foreign relations corporate program which is supposed said increase the connections between the business community and the foreign policy community which is some extent are one in the same. i also want to thank -- wel
>> congressman paul ryan and vice-president joe biden will face off in their only debate. abc news much erratic moderates. you can watch and engaged with c-span with our live debate preview at 7:00 p.m. eastern followed by two ways to watch the beta nine on c-span both candid sunscreen the entire debate. on c-span2, the multi camera version of the debate of followed by calls, e-mails, and treats. follow live coverage on c-span, c-span radio, an online at c-span.org. >> his company...